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		<title>By: hobbes21</title>
		<link>http://www.politicolor.com/2008/07/are-we-one-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-164</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To look again at the words:

“…united people, a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs, who, by their joint counsels, arms and efforts, fighting side by side throughout a long and bloody war, have nobly established their general Liberty and Independence.”

It rang true with its time, yet positively resounds today.  Why?  Well, contrary to what racists and dividers say, technology and progress illimuninate our oneness.  In reverse order, let us count the ways:

1) More and more of our people have access to the same rights

2) Our armed forces played a significant role in integration

3) Media has proved a unifying force in shared culture, with the internet providing unheard of communication (Hey, BC, Ala, and Cali!)

4) The Constitution provides our framework (and more!), with our shared experience functioning as a binding religion and language

5) Finally, science, agreeing with the Old Testament, does point to the the fact that we share common parents [This goes far beyond Oprah&#039;s ancestry
or O&#039;Cheney cousins to original African roots  (Lucy/ Eve--who-you-will)]

I think that Puck&#039;s words touch on something very key.  We weren&#039;t raised by wolves or picked by destiny.  We CHOSE to be a people.  And WE did that: not a magic hand from the sky, an eye on a pyramid, or gnomes busied writing while folks were napping.

And we will continue to keep choosing: including, learning, growing.

The Constitution is not only a system of ideas, it is a matrix which generates ideals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To look again at the words:</p>
<p>“…united people, a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs, who, by their joint counsels, arms and efforts, fighting side by side throughout a long and bloody war, have nobly established their general Liberty and Independence.”</p>
<p>It rang true with its time, yet positively resounds today.  Why?  Well, contrary to what racists and dividers say, technology and progress illimuninate our oneness.  In reverse order, let us count the ways:</p>
<p>1) More and more of our people have access to the same rights</p>
<p>2) Our armed forces played a significant role in integration</p>
<p>3) Media has proved a unifying force in shared culture, with the internet providing unheard of communication (Hey, BC, Ala, and Cali!)</p>
<p>4) The Constitution provides our framework (and more!), with our shared experience functioning as a binding religion and language</p>
<p>5) Finally, science, agreeing with the Old Testament, does point to the the fact that we share common parents [This goes far beyond Oprah's ancestry<br />
or O'Cheney cousins to original African roots  (Lucy/ Eve--who-you-will)]</p>
<p>I think that Puck&#8217;s words touch on something very key.  We weren&#8217;t raised by wolves or picked by destiny.  We CHOSE to be a people.  And WE did that: not a magic hand from the sky, an eye on a pyramid, or gnomes busied writing while folks were napping.</p>
<p>And we will continue to keep choosing: including, learning, growing.</p>
<p>The Constitution is not only a system of ideas, it is a matrix which generates ideals.</p>
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		<title>By: puckermom</title>
		<link>http://www.politicolor.com/2008/07/are-we-one-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-163</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the vein of &quot;words create worlds,&quot; I fall back on the beneficently-intended lie that Will et al. described at Montpelier.  Oneness is a goal more than it is or has ever been a reality, much less an absolute.  Other, older nations may be defined by their homogeneity (frequently more mythical than than actual), but the United States of America is not, never has been, never will be 100% &quot;one&quot; in the traditional, nationalistic sense.

Consider Strasbourg, France.   German name for a French city--what does that tell us?  It isn&#039;t a new place; it has been inhabited (and battled over) by both ethnic Frenchmen and ethnic Germans for centuries.  The &quot;Swiss&quot; don&#039;t even pretend to be &quot;one&quot; nation--they may be politically and economically united, but not linguistically, and John Calvin notwithstanding, there have continually been Catholics there.  Rome?  Both ancient and modern Rome have been consistently multicultural (Romulus &amp; Remus didn&#039;t exactly hail from the Italian peninsula, and Paul of Tarsus--Asia Minor--was a religious &amp; cultural Jew and a Roman citizen simultaneously!).  We have to go to more geographically isolated places like Japan or Korea, which have historically taken steps to maintain homogeneity for Jay&#039;s description to be more accurate.

Maybe we should ask &quot;Are we one enough?  Are we willing to be one where it counts?&quot;   If we are (or have been or will be) one, it&#039;s because we CHOOSE to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the vein of &#8220;words create worlds,&#8221; I fall back on the beneficently-intended lie that Will et al. described at Montpelier.  Oneness is a goal more than it is or has ever been a reality, much less an absolute.  Other, older nations may be defined by their homogeneity (frequently more mythical than than actual), but the United States of America is not, never has been, never will be 100% &#8220;one&#8221; in the traditional, nationalistic sense.</p>
<p>Consider Strasbourg, France.   German name for a French city&#8211;what does that tell us?  It isn&#8217;t a new place; it has been inhabited (and battled over) by both ethnic Frenchmen and ethnic Germans for centuries.  The &#8220;Swiss&#8221; don&#8217;t even pretend to be &#8220;one&#8221; nation&#8211;they may be politically and economically united, but not linguistically, and John Calvin notwithstanding, there have continually been Catholics there.  Rome?  Both ancient and modern Rome have been consistently multicultural (Romulus &amp; Remus didn&#8217;t exactly hail from the Italian peninsula, and Paul of Tarsus&#8211;Asia Minor&#8211;was a religious &amp; cultural Jew and a Roman citizen simultaneously!).  We have to go to more geographically isolated places like Japan or Korea, which have historically taken steps to maintain homogeneity for Jay&#8217;s description to be more accurate.</p>
<p>Maybe we should ask &#8220;Are we one enough?  Are we willing to be one where it counts?&#8221;   If we are (or have been or will be) one, it&#8217;s because we CHOOSE to be.</p>
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		<title>By: stepwinder</title>
		<link>http://www.politicolor.com/2008/07/are-we-one-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>stepwinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think graphing functions take us back to our discussion of &lt;a href=&quot;/2008/07/05/essence-of-a-federalist/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;what is a Federalist &lt;/a&gt;.

Thinking about this question, I&#039;ve thought it&#039;s really a matter of how we define ONE. Whether we expect a homogeneous answer or can accept a heterogeneous one. So, now we&#039;re talking about dynamics in mathematical equations and the definition of words.

It always comes back to how we understand the words we use, doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think graphing functions take us back to our discussion of <a href="/2008/07/05/essence-of-a-federalist/" rel="nofollow">what is a Federalist </a>.</p>
<p>Thinking about this question, I&#8217;ve thought it&#8217;s really a matter of how we define ONE. Whether we expect a homogeneous answer or can accept a heterogeneous one. So, now we&#8217;re talking about dynamics in mathematical equations and the definition of words.</p>
<p>It always comes back to how we understand the words we use, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: hobbes21</title>
		<link>http://www.politicolor.com/2008/07/are-we-one-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-161</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A question to ever be asked, and in doing so come closer to the answer of &quot;yes&quot;.  Reminds me of graphing functions back in Calculus days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A question to ever be asked, and in doing so come closer to the answer of &#8220;yes&#8221;.  Reminds me of graphing functions back in Calculus days.</p>
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		<title>By: Mutter</title>
		<link>http://www.politicolor.com/2008/07/are-we-one-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>Mutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the thought-provoking post, which I will modify for use in some of my classes this Fall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the thought-provoking post, which I will modify for use in some of my classes this Fall.</p>
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